To Ditch Google & Co and go self-hosted (technology)
am not happy about how much I rely on shady multinationals
for my essential services, and decided to see how much of
this stuff I could self-host. After github went full retard,
I already have a cheap VPS I found on LowEndBox that
I use to host my own git repos; but decided to see what else
I could host myself. So far, I have the server set up with
(among other things):
far, so good - everything works just fine. Of course, a more
integrated 'turn-key' solution would be preferable (Kolab
maybe?) but it's working and performing well. Open standards
and protocols also make it easy to integrate the different
services. What solution have you chosen? Are there any other
services that can easily be self-hosted like this? I am
missing a self-hosted online office suite ala google docs,
preferably with NextCloud integration.
[–] hairybawbag 4 points (+4|-0) 7.9 hours ago
setup. I've been meaning to do a similar thing for a year
now but only got as far as using bittorrentsync for
backing up mobile phones. Will give NextCloud a go soon
[–] boggle247 1 points (+1|-0) 7.7 hours ago
out Nextcloud plus first. Has many other features
already setup so it makes the process a little more noob
[–] Professor_de_la_Paz 3 points (+3|-0) 5
bookmarked this page for later reference then archived
it once I remembered how fragile
this site is.
[–] Surfer 3 points (+3|-0) 8 hours ago
How long did it take you to set up, all in all?
a noob I’ve set up my Synology NAS with its integrated
cloud solutions, with vpn connection everywhere. Now I’m
only needing to increase internet speed, and it’s good to
[–] Futt [S] 1 points (+1|-0) 6.8 hours ago
love the Synology NAS software, absolutely a great
alternative and covers most of the bases if you have the
pipes and uptime to handle it. I had an old DS209 that
kicked the bucket earlier this year, been meaning to get
a new one.
for time, it's hard to tell. I have been tinkering with
it on and off for a couple of days but it would depend
on how familiar you are with the software.
[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 1 points (+1|-0) 4.1
you look into email hosting with any seriousness you'll
see countless stories of people who rejected self-hosting.
If their experiences are typical, once you start using
your email address for serious purposes your life will be
plagued by the double-headed dragon of SPAM and silently
failed delivery. If you're lucky you'll get emails bounced
back, but you'll always be concerned that incredibly
important emails failed to deliver, or the sender was
unable to deliver them to you.
[–] BentAxel 1 points (+1|-0) 4.2
hours ago (edited 4.2 hours ago)
you for your overview. Best of luck. I as well am so woven
into these people's company, I wish there was an easy
alternative. But I guess that is the rub. Want easy, I am
ripe for picking. Saving this post for later. I might have
just inspired me.
[–] boredTech 1 points (+1|-0) 5.1
you messed with docker? It takes a bit of getting used to,
but maintenance is easy when in place.
[–] InflationSlave 1 points (+1|-0) 4.7 hours ago
is a turd, useful in case you want another layer of
abstraction to slow things down or can't otherwise
[–] boredTech 0 points (+0|-0) 3.8 hours ago
really not surprised about that opinion of it. But,
personally I do like the extra layer of abstraction.
It keeps resource management simple, and I have a
stupid security setup of running two containers
parallel while restarting them (out of rotation). It
is a bit more of a resource drain, but not enough for
me to care. Plus it's stupid simple to use. But, to
each his own.
[–] karcyon 1 points (+1|-0) 6.4 hours ago
am really interested in the cloud storage thing. Replacing
Dropbox would be a good thing.
[–] ZYX321 1 points (+1|-0) 6.5 hours ago (edited 5.4 hours ago)
ejabberd for chat and SIP signaling and baby you've got a
Also, Debian (upon which Ubuntu is based) has a strict
policy about only including free and open software in its
Repos. They're stable branches are REALLY stable, which
means, they're also somewhat old. Testing is sufficiently
stable with much more frequent updates.
2: Note that you can use Google or Amazon cloud storage
for your next/owncloud instance; But you can have your
data encrypted. Nice to be able to use their storage
without revealing anything except how often your server
reads and writes to their container. Consider using their
cheapest tiers of storage for encrypted backups, as well,
a la Duplicity. Or find a few buddies with similar
interests (Me, I have no friends) and give each other some
space for encrypted backups at your homes/businesses; Then
you have off-site backups for free.
[–] FortniteBlitzkrieg 0 points (+0|-0) 6 hours ago
that just coordinate a bunch of chat services so you can
use them seamlessly? I'm not getting a clear picture by
browsing their website.
[–] ZYX321 2 points (+2|-0) 5.5 hours ago (edited 5.4 hours ago)
primary function is as an XMPP server, which is
primarily text based chat, but has support for video,
sharing files, multi user rooms, etc. It is fully
federate-able with other peoples' XMPP servers. So as
with email you can talk to people from other domains.
Facebook's chat, Google's chat, and I think Whatsapp
were all originally based on XMPP derivatives. Google
used to even do federation with other domains. That's
one of the ways they built their userbase, and then
they shut it down... Check out the Conversations
client on Android, Gajim on PC, and get fucked on iOS.
With OMEMO encryption, you don't even have to trust
the server operators.
is useful for VOIP and video calling.
[–] Futt [S] 0 points (+0|-0) 6.4 hours ago
a bad idea; I've used prosody before but I am not sure
if it handles SIP, might be XMPP only.
[–] boggle247 1 points (+1|-0) 7.8 hours ago (edited 7.7 hours ago)
being worked on right now (not to be confused with
Nextcloud notes). It will have rich text format and
sharing the doc for collaboration. So it will be very
similar to Google docs. I have looked very hard to find
anything with collab sharing features and have no luck.
There is collabra suites but from what I've read it breaks
I'd recommend Nextcloud plus. It was originally Nextcloud
pi designed for use with raspberry pis and arm chips. But
now it can be used on non arm chips. I like it bc it has
many security features built in (fail2ban, mod security,
firewall, and others) also has several ddns options built
in. Also has auto backup features.
[–] hairybawbag 1 points (+2|-1) 7.9 hours ago
security do you have on that server? I'd consider port
knocking or something similar to hide it from the rest of
the planet when it runs that many open services. If you
only use it for yourself that shouldn't be too much
[–] Futt [S] 1 points (+1|-0) 6.9 hours ago
just for me, but does have it's own firewall, fail2ban,
https + reCaptcha for the web services. Public-facing
services like ssh, https, smtp/imap and dns are
naturally exposed but monitored by fail2ban and
encrypted (ssl/tls). All other services only listen on
loopback. I would definitely tighten it up a bit if this
was a public service though.
[–] WhatWouldOdinDo 2 points (+3|-1) 6.4 hours ago
should think about changing the port sshd is listening
on if you haven’t already. A lot of attacks assume the
default port and that will cut down your visibility.
also replacing passwords with key authentication if
you’re comfortable with keeping track of your public
[–] OryHaraG 0 points (+0|-0) 2.2
out apache for nginx, its better :)
[–] mynewaccountagain 0 points (+0|-0) 2.7
host your own SOA for DNS... yeah that's brilliant.
[–] RumpRangerRick 0 points (+1|-1) 5.6 hours ago
into https://www.clearos.com/ -
I've been using them for years back when they were called
[–] Futt [S] 0 points (+0|-0) 5.2 hours ago
never heard of them. What's your experience with them?
How integrated are the apps they provide? Do you host
your own hardware or did you opt for a hosted solution?
[–] RumpRangerRick 0 points (+0|-0) 3.7 hours ago
run it as my border firewall. Paid support has always
been good. Run it on own hardware.
apps integrated from their Store are done really well
(much of the add-ons are free).
pay an annual fee for their updated intrusion
detection filters. Pretty much the only service of
theirs I actually pay for.